Over the years I have sat down with podcast hosts to talk about IFS, psychedelics, touch and the life of the spirit. Pour a cup of tea and pull up a chair.
Featured conversation · Psychedelic Conversations with Susan Guner
IFS and Psychedelics
Episode 61
The psychedelic renaissance, and what Internal Family Systems, somatics and ethical touch bring to the medicine space. We also talk about why community matters as much as the medicine itself.
Touch with Substance presented by Unwind Learning
Neo-Shamanic IFS, Ethical Touch and the Edges of Consent
Episode 3
Touch, consent and expanded states: how parts show up in the body during psychedelic work, and what ethical, attuned touch can look like there.
Soul Care for Therapists
Healing Our Culture Wound through Community Groups
Episode 70
Why groups help us heal the wounds our culture leaves, and ease the isolation so many of us carry. The episode closes with a guided meditation.
Mind Medicine Australia with Deborah Roberts
Mindfulness, Connection and Cultural Identity
Season 2, Episode 23
My own path through trauma and healing, and how Neoshamanic IFS invites community, nature and the spirit world into the work.
Content note: this conversation touches on suicide.
Super States with Joshua Peters
Spirituality and Psychotherapy
Episode 56
Carrying psychedelic and spiritual experience into ordinary life: embodied meditation, and the small communities that hold us while we change.
Transcending the Veil with Nils Haack
Spirituality and Psychedelics for Your Healing Journey
Episode 39
An intimate conversation about my own healing story, and the places where spirit and medicine met along the way.
Integrating Psychedelics with Jenny Weinar
Psychotherapeutic Touch and Fostering Connection
Episode 1
How I came to psychedelic work, why careful screening matters, and what touch and Neoshamanic IFS offer people preparing for a hard journey.
Shit You Wish You Learned in Grad School with Jennifer Agee
Psychotherapeutic Touch and Psychedelic Integration
Episode 29
The healing power of touch in therapy, and why clinicians need real training before they bring it into psychedelic settings.
Talks
When Legal Isn’t Ethical
Psychedelics, Touch, and the Cost of Regulation
Sabrina Santa Clara, Founder and Trainer, Psychotherapeutic Touch
A hug can be ethical in Oregon and break the rules in Colorado. Same mushroom, same nervous system. This talk follows the touch rules being written into psychedelic law back through a long history of things that were legal and wrong, and asks what ethics look like once they are built around the real person in the room.
Expanded from a talk presented at the Touch with Substance Conference, October 2026. Recorded independently; not an official conference recording.